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Feb 17, 2008
What would you do if you are richer by RM10,000?
what would you do? spending is easy, investing need some thinking
Lately, some of my colleague asking me for opinion on how to be successful? so I asked them why asking me?...hmm, as I wonder what their eyes telling, judging me as being successful... really wonder
I never feel I am a succesful person, at least not yet, as my benchmark of being success is having RM1Million in cash or assets or both in that value .... of course, that should be under my name :)
Perhaps, maybe they see it due to my way of dressing or my qualifications, or perhaps because I always smile, so always look ceria (happy) all the time....hmm ... I just normal person, living within my financial abilities and working hard to improve the life as well, who doesn't want to be rich anyway?
Nevertheless, I am happy to give them my word of advice..hahaha, macam financial consultant pulak ...
Back to if I were richer by RM10K, obviously for me is to reduce or minimize my debts...that is my priority....debts in my opinion and view cannot be avoided, but can always be reduce or minimize, means you still have debts, but the amount not more than 2-3month of your salary, better if less...my own assumptions ....(by the way the zakat for RM10K is 2.5% or RM250 only)
other things is, I am aiming to fulfill the last tenets of being muslim this year, so....one of conditions to be at that "special place' that you are free from any debts.. and at same time leaving enough money for your family.... (with that RM10K, I am free from debts, Alhamdulillah, thank you Bapak)
So, instead of discussing on being richer by RM10K, here I am targeting for my first million ringgit :)
(update 22nd Feb)
FYI - the Zakat hold a concept of "haul" or simply define as one year saving, or in this case, the income or saving must be generated over 12 month/ 1 year period. Let say you have continous income or saving the same amount for 12 month, then you are encourage to pay the zakat.
In this case, where you getting some one in a lifetime income, you are not obliged..wallahualam
FYI - success are best define by you alone, not others. As to measure success, you may need a benchmarks, that again by you, no other books can define. For myself, I do benchmarks my success to others, in perspective of financially, academically, career, family and spritually...so, what is yours?
Election 08 - the season where watching TV is prohibited
These is the time, where I prohibits myself from buying newspaper or watching news from local TV.
Election 08, is my third round offering my wisdom in choosing my candidates, subsequently the government of my choice. I never failed to choose the same political party as I enherited the choice of my late father, without any doubt :)
I have no issue, though I am concern on the inflation, the higher cost of living and mis-management of our rich resources
Obviosly, our country are damn rich, where the resources could offer (1) a free education to all, up to bachelor degree level; (2) a plot of land for every single rakyat for their own house
I am dreaming.....dreams are possible.... or shall I continue dreaming?
Feb 10, 2008
Being Entrepreneur and Intra-preneur
Even on Sunday, which happen to be my day of updating my blogs, is now being used as to working the financial aspect of the project.
I always have deep interest being an entrepreneur, even my qualification are all subject to the one aim. I still remember, soon after receiving my SPM result (O level equivalent), I was offered to do the food and car mechanics, both, I assume will make lots of money, I choose food studies instead...subsequently my neighbour is running a car workshops, and made more money than me :)
So here I am, instead being full entrepreneur, perhaps an intra-preneur is my best bet, helping my employer with one of the biggest project I ever handle, and best is; it does contribute to the muslim world...
I am working and praying hard for it success...
Jan 20, 2008
Food Fundamental 1
Basically, foods is divided into 7 components;
1. Carbohydrate
2. Protein
3. Fats
4. Vitamins
5. Minerals
6. Water
7. Roughage / fiber
Carbohydrate
Carbohydrate provides energy for our body. It can be divided into two categories or sources,
1. Starch
2. Sugar
Starch can be found in rice, cereal, flour and potatoes. The effect of heat (cooking) on starch will increase its size and make it soft and sticky. Water will evaporate before absorb it again, The process is called; gelatinization.
Sugar can be found in many forms like glucose from sugar cane, fructose from fruit, maltose from cereal and lactose from milk.
The effect of heat on sugar will result in change in color and odor. It will melt and thicken until it becomes almost solid. This process is known as caramelization.
Protein
Protein functions as agent in building and repairing body tissue. It can be found in many food ingredients like fish, eggs, chicken, meat and soybean.
Protein will change from soft to firm, loose it moisture, change color and odor, when we cook. This is known as coagulation.
In some cases, protein can absorb odor or aroma as well (like eggs, fish).
Fats
Fats can be divided into two main categories
1. Animal fat- milk based product -butter, cheese, lard , whey
2. Vegetable fat- palm oil, coconut oil, sesame oil, margarine, shortening, soy oil, corn oil etc.
Fats stand in solid condition at room temperature. Smoke will be produced during cooking.
Vitamins
Vitamins can be divided into 2,
Fat soluble vitamin, will be destroyed during cooking, due to heat and fat being used. The vitamin is ADEK
Water-soluble vitamin will be lost during exposure of food toward moisture and water, which include washing and cooking/blanching. The vitamin will be B and C
Minerals
Minerals exist on every food ingredient. It is important in building our bodies cells and help in proper functioning the body system, physically and mentally. Examples of minerals will be calcium, iron, iodine, and phosphorus.
Water
80% of human and animal body content is water.
Water functions as a regulator body for temperature, and assists in digestion and absorption of food. Water is needed for blood and all secretions.
Fiber / Roughage
Fiber is considered as carbohydrate but it cannot be digested. It is also known as cellulose / unavailable carbohydrate.
Fiber helps in elimination of body waste and makes sure that the digestion track will function properly.
Fiber can be found in most fruits like kiwi, orange, yogurt and bread.
Issues on Food
1. How much food to take? (Food Pyramid and Islamic Perspective)
2. Food Borne Diseases – Avian Flu, Mad Cows and JE-Nipah Virus
Jan 10, 2008
New Year and Yesterday Once More
So here I am ended with a very interesting and nice websites - offering oldies and evergreen songs, which makes me drifting and losing my soul the whole day listening to carpenters, bee gees, louis armstrong, the beatles, mary hopkins .. wow huge file indeed.. including the greenfield - my late father's favorite by the brothers four... not to mentioned the 'pujaan omputih 3' was dedicated for the rock songs..hmm, many more such as the sound of silence by simon and garfunkel, the sealed of the kiss by brian hyland
I was born in 70's, so my kind of songs I appreciates most are in 90's (majority that time was rock songs); but I doesn't stop me from listening ranges of music such as alternative - linkin' park being the favorite, instrumentals and solo's such as Maxim or Bonds and Vanessa Mae or even the Richard Clayderman and Kenny G. On top of lists was Celine Dion (including the french version as I am quite versed in the languages :) Mariah Carey (albeit the old version of her album) and Kelly Clarkson
By the way; just visit the websitefor the songs you like; http://www.geocities.com/hassny/ (congrats to the owner of the site) However the majority of songs are Malay evergreen, as for english evergreen - the file entitled "Pujaan Omputih" file 1 to 6
You will need a 'real player' and hope you will enjoy listening.....
FYI - I guess to look forward is sometime to look back, obviously to make you a better person.. Happy Maal Hijrah 1429 and Year 2008.
FYI- I am hoping to get and listening to SM Salim songs, but sadly it was none..nevertheless the title of the topic today belongs to the Carpenters (in the pujaan omputih 6); below here the lyrics - so reflective of myself today ....
When I was young I’d listened to the radio
Waitin’ for my favorite songs
Waiting they played I’d sing along
It made me smile
Those were such happy times
And not so long ago
How I wondered where they’d gone
But they’re back again
Just like a long lost friend
All the songs I loved so well
(*) every sha-la-la-la
Every wo-wo-wo
Still shines
Every shing-a-ling-a-ling
That they’re starting to sing’s
So fine
When they get to the part
Where he’s breakin’ her heart
It can really make me cry
Just like before
It’s yesterday once more
Lookin’ back on how it was
In years gone by
And the good times that I had
Makes today seem rather sad
So much has changed
It was songs of love thatI would sing to then
And I’d memorize each word
Those old melodies
Still sound so good to me
As they melt the years away
Repeat (*)
All my best memories
Come back clearly to me
Some can even make me cry
Just like before
It’s yesterday once more
Jan 6, 2008
Between Oil and Petrol
Petrol has reached USD100 per barrel; so our government will going to bankcrupt if the petrol price here is not to be increased (as our deputy PM mentioned)...hmm, which I totaly disagree in management perspective
so, the solution is to increase the price; but wait after elections...soon
Now we have cooking oil crisis instead. Limiting 5kg per person. The issue was smuggling, higher price and higher demand overseas, hoarding...name it, you got it
I believe there are bigger issue hidden a.k.a the price hike very soon; similar to flour, sugar and rice price hike previously? not to mentioned the milk; which has no control at all and it also got to do with the 'subsidy payment' to palm oil refinery as well; which our government never really happy anyway (read burden) to absorb it for the sake of rakyat.
Since the elections is so near, in government perspective; can we postpone the hikes? there you got the rations :)
FYI- food ration should only happen during emergencies; war, disaster, big flood, tsunami, earthquakes...so what is the real issue in Malaysia scenarios?
As the price of palm oil is escalating in international market, government has to subsidized some portion of it, as to maintain reasonable price for rakyat; which in turn pays the income tax on yearly basis - who is owing to whom?
When Media highlighting an issue 2: Is our food safe?
Let's discuss the topic
NST last sunday 30th Dec highlighting an issue on food safety - heavily discussed on food coloring and preservative among other.
I always wonder on the cancer; a modern disease which have taken so many life. I assume it must be reflecting from our lifestyles, the food we ate.. and the lack of exercise :)
Food color is part of creative learning in chef training; as we emphasize on 'eating through eyes' first as to stimulates the appetite of our customers.
Human naturally will try to get the ingredients that as fresh and through color they become the victims, as marketers have all sorts of solutions. I do remember in my training during an advertisement, that red lipsticks is used to color the strawberries as to look fresh :)
Another was the preservative; to make food last longer or extending the shelf life
Both color and preservative are good intention, but when it comes to greedy businessmen..hmm should I write more
to be updated with adobe acrobat file on this issue
FYI - Malaysian does realize this issue; as we can see the establishment of natural/organic ingredients shops, but the setback was the pricing not yet reachable to common people; that shouldn't be an excuse as we can always start simple such as taking raw sugar instead of white sugar, tea instead of cordials, cooking own food rather instant packet
Dec 26, 2007
When Media highlighting an issue...
The program highlighting the issue of cleanliness and hygiene of food outlets in Malaysia and it does provide various pictorial / video examples of; a restaurants in Perak (was that a popular "pau" outlet in Tanjung Malim?), a soya bean processing oulet in Johor and a chicken's slaughtering house in Ara, Damansara Jaya... which all shown a stinking, filthy and the worst ever.... very disgusting indeed.
That remind me of a case when authority manage to hook a "big bread manufacturer" on hygienic ground, which resulted majority of Muslim in Malaysia boycotting the brand. That has also lead to one of my best friend vowed to prepare his own bread.
Back to the issue, Halal concept does include hygiene; which the HACCP is the best way in practice. Ask any food outlets, whether they have "JAKIM's HALAL and HACCP certification together? I bet, most of them is having the easiest to get and more marketable "logos", rather the HACCP which is very stringent in process .I also wonder why with JAKIM; the hygiene and food handling process were never a big issue, as important as the slaughtering process, diet intake and the way of rearing the animals as well.
Looking back the 360 program, the owner of the chicken's slaughtering outlet did admit that the animals are not being slaughtered by Malaysian (majority from India), not to mentioned the workers religion?; and at same time he is selling the chicken to everyone!!!!. (it also shows the chicken being washed? and cleaned? by water that as brownish as at the IndahWater treatment plant)... sorry at least IndahWater are better... All these can only be concluded the uglier side of Malaysian businessmen; as I have discuss in my earlier entry in this blog on halal concept.
FYI - Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) is a systematic preventive approach to food safety, that addresses physical, chemical and biological hazards as a means of prevention rather than finished product inspection. HACCP is used in the food industry to identify potential food safety hazards, so that key actions, known as Critical Control Points (CCP's) can be taken to reduce or eliminate the risk of the hazards being realized. The system is used at all stages of food production and preparation processes. (sources: wikipedia)
FYI - This shown Malaysian authorities has failed again and again; who cares, after all, the officers there just holding a job; not the responsibility (cari makan, bukan ibadah).
Coming soon - the halal concept of seafood and other ingredients, Food Fundamental 101 and healthy food, stay tune and please do visit this blog :)
Dec 18, 2007
The Army's Food "Rangsum"
Fast-forward - the food now have been improved as the technology -the food are packed in aluminium sachet (pouches), 'ready-to-eat' and some even use dehydrated ingredients and sealed further using secondary plastic packaging, which I assume that is for moisture protection. (by the way, this time cannot find the cooking compartment)
Nowadays, I think the mentioned packed food are difficult to obtain (well I am civilian, I am not sure actually; how to get those from the army), since any food contractor are obliged/compulsory to supply cooked food or fresh ingredients to any latitude and longitude in Malaysia, including out to the sea as informed by the Royal Navy Chefs which I had the opportunity to trained them, back in 2003-2005. (Malaysia are not that big anyway, plus our forest have fast becoming into oil palm estates!!)
Nevertheless here are some of the menu 4; Fish curry, vegetable soups, crackers, sugar, salt, chicken curry, mixed vege, beef kurma, sweet and sour fish, pajeri nenas, bubur pulut hitam, bubur gandum, pineapple in syrups, tea bag, coffee, matches, fruit jams - that is packed for a person, perhaps I estimated for one to two weeks supply?
So my menu today was fish curry - right from the packet (only to found the quantity is insufficeint for my family, therefore - some adjustments and voila - the fish head curry :)
updated with the pictures (27th Dec)
Dec 16, 2007
Kenduri Here and There....
To my best friend: Hadi & Wife; Selamat Pengantin Baru, semoga bahagia ke akhir hayat, Amin
And the food is aplenty, marvellous and well anticipated especially if you are joining a Chef's wedding ceremony; and I couldn't help but 2 servings for myself :)
left to right: the Nasi Briani, The dishes: buffet style and The Tapai Pulut (or fermented glutinous rice; taste sweet and best served chilled A la-mode / with ice cream)
Clockwise: The main table for the Raja Sehari, the fruits carving display and the thrilling kenduri atmosphere and; those in orange t-shirt are the "bentara" or the waiter- the key person in any traditional kenduri; relaxing as the kenduri 's is almost over as we arrived
Dec 11, 2007
Congratulations KeKKWa!!! - for the 72 Rare Foods
read the excerpts (NST Dec10, pg.24)
"Food can also be of heritage value. If there is no effort made to preserve it, it can also be forgotten within the next few generations," said minister Datuk Seri Rais Yatim after launching the Heritage Food Festival.He said he would be getting feedback from the public before gazetting some of the food as a national heritage."We will also look into modifying the ingredients a little to make it acceptable to all Malaysians, and then we will popularise it again."To complement this effort, the ministry will be publishing recipes of the "rare" food and will be touring several states to organise the food festival.He also said that there was no need for any other country to be upset with the nation's heritage list as culture was meant to be shared and modified and was intangible."
This effort suits well with our tourism objective and educational hubs ambitions as I have discussed earlier under topic; Asian Culinary- the future trends. The documenting process is indeed the first step of many stages in academics and significance to Malaysia's own version of Culinary / Gastronomy Tourism.
Syabas KeKKWa.
The Istana Kenangan of Kuala Kangsar - being built in 1926 without even a single nail!!!, and still standing today; located next to the Royal Palace of Bukit Chandan (shown here is a model at Taiping Museum). Efforts to register, documenting and preserved any heritage should be fully endorsed and supported.
Dec 8, 2007
Food & Meals In A Day
- 6.00am-7.00am Breakfast (Nasi Lemak, Roti Canai, Teh Tarik........)
- 8.00am Karipap
- 8.30am-9.30am Coffee Breaks
- 10.00am Sandwiches
- 10.30am-11.30am Brunch
- 12.30noon-2.00pm Lunch
- 2.30pm-3.30pm Hi-Tea
- 4.00pm Biscuits
- 4.30pm-5.00pm Tea Breaks
- 6.00pm-7.00pm Dinner
- 8.30pm Snacks
- 10.30pm Supper
- 12.30am Late Supper
- 3.00am...don't worry, mamak's shop open 24hours
- 4.00am ...bangunlah, McD dah bukak!!!!
- 7.00am ....Re-start your day with #1 (the breakfast again)
FYI - meals are suggested to be taken only twice a day; breakfast and early dinner
Ice kacang anyone? Bon Apetite......
The Chicken and Eggs Story - Halal Concepts 3
Malaysian love the chicken so much, that in 2005 - Malaysia's chicken consumption at 28 to 30kg per person a year or 36 million chickens per month is among the highest in the world. It also has a high per capita consumption level of 280 eggs per person per year. (USDA 2006) This RM9 Billion industry produced about 450 million chicken a year (MOA 2006). That roughly; a chicken plus 20 eggs per person per monthly basis.
The "ayam golek"; a local version of charcoal grilled chicken. Ever asked where the chicken coming from?
Chicken fall under category of white meat, its tender characteristics and an alternative source of proteins, making it very popular. This has create a huge business; the huge profit; and being Malaysian whenever they facing the food- this will only shows the ugly side. I remember; once upon a time, the chicks being destroyed due to lower market price; a very unethical practice indeed.
Today, I would like to discuss the essence of how the "ayam daging" or 'broiler chicken' being reared. With all the technology nowadays, the chicken have a shorter life-cycles - 3 months before its reached to our tables. Yup, 3 months only
While the chicken can be marketed as early as 1 month; hence 'the spring chicken', a normal one will start at 2 months, about 90% upon reaching 1.2kg-1.5kgs. Those you find; a chicken with 2 kg or more, most likely are 3 month old.
The "ayam daging" that we normally had, have gone various "innovative" DNA alteration; among other - no sexual orientation and therefore focus on eating only. It will not running away if you trying to catch them (have no functional brain?). The chicken also being reared in air-conditional space, and due to the "unnatural" method, the chicken tends to exposed to various diseases, which then require additional antibiotics and residue. So, what food we are having actually - chicken or chemicals?
Malaysian loves the chicken so much. Attached here is the Malaysian Style Grilled Chicken; Served with Satay Peanut Sauce, Buttered Rice and Keropok
At first the antibiotics are supposed to assists the chicken to be resistance to the viral; instead now; has turned as an opportunity; to further accelerated the productions - the chicken meat - (as the injection of antibiotics will increase the weight) a similar process normally happened to the pork production. (the irony; the chicken and pork is our biggest exports (MOA 2006), ever since the pork's price is increasing higher, the antibiotics's price are also becoming higher - there you have the recent chicken price hiking / RM6 per kg...hmm...should I say more)
Hey, how about the eggs that have been produced in average every 4 minutes!!! (to achieve that, "something" being injected as well)
In 1990's - Government, in hygienic perspective has ordered - all chicken must be sold -cleaned, without any feathers. This is a good intention, however only to create further problems. We no longer know who and where the slaughtering process?
JAKIM on the other hand, only focusing on the slaughtering process. So much so, a major chicken supplier is allowed to this new method; The chicken is tight upside-down, on conveyer belt and the "name of god" is read only once; then, the operator switch-on the rotational blade. It will be running for the next 10 hours - a process for more than 100,000 chicken a day (is this a normal practice? Jakim answer was; due to large number of chicken, therefore all the "adab" are not be followed - modern way)
All these conclude to one questions; is our chicken halal?
FYI - The halal practices
The chicken must be allowed to its natural; able to roaming freely; know how to scratch the soil in finding foods; apart of diet given; which this will naturally create a resistance to any disease; hence - minus the antibiotics and should be able to fly short distance. A normal chicken grows 3-8 months. (the "ayam kampung" or 'free-range chicken' have all these characteristics)
During slaughtering process, it must be released and allowed to be free, while to the last breath. It is advised to even "hide" the knife - in respecting the animals while at same time avoiding unnecesary stress (so Jakim... hopefully you are learning the basics here?)
FYI - The Solutions
My advise - get the "organic chicken" which being farmed / reared naturally and slaughtered as with accordance by a Medical Doctor. The farm is located in Hulu Langat, Selangor while the shop is located in Tmn. Nirwana, Ampang, Selangor. I don't have any share in this business, just a feeling being responsible to my fellow Malaysian in getting HALAL chicken from beginning to end of the process
Contact:
Mumtaz Meat & Marine Foods Sdn Bhd. No 17, Jalan Nirwana 35, Taman Nirwana, 68000 Ampang, Selangor. Malaysia. Tel 603 92811802 / 92816924Fax 603 92816925 e-mail nattpro@streamyx. com
Alamat ladang ternak ayam organik: Lot 3864, Batu 23 Jln Sg Lui, Ulu Langat
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Dec 2, 2007
The Halal Food Concepts 2
the navigational compass in its earlier years.nowadays with digital technology, we thought of becoming more advances, yet we still depending on one criterion; education to navigate our life.
Audits for animals - among other it must received clean bill of health (from the expert), old enough to be slaughtered, have no visible stress or being injured and historically, being reared as natural permits, accordingly
Nov 28, 2007
Food - The definitions
Food are define as anything, everything that can be consumed, eating and drinking, as long is edible and for Muslim - must be halal. While the objective is to provide energy and maintenance of body.
There are plenty of food in this world, a normal one would be fish and seafood, beef and lamb, poultry, birds and games, vegetarian food for vegan. Under special category of exotics like Korean with their dogs meat, Japanese with their Puff's fish; despite known poisonous, others are caviar, frog's legs (available at Ampang wet market), turtles soups, alligator meat, kangaroo and ostrich, and sometimes insects and rodents.
So, which one you like to have?
The Halal Food Concepts
- As for start, the halal concepts lies in the ingredients itself. In the early years of working, I would love to have the fruits cakes, which provided free as snacks by my employer. I stopped, after "accidentally" found that during the process, RUM is used, as to flavor and moisten the dried fruits, hence longer expiry date!
- As for animal, it must be slaughtered according to Islamic ritual (halal requirements). While I have no doubts in beef/lamb, which are slaughtered accordingly with licence and controlled abattoir. But for chicken, this is not the case, most chicken are sold in market, cleaned. where and who slaughter it? I always wonder why chicken nowadays are tasteless and their meat are like some plastics fibre, so, I try this "organic chicken", then my confidence being restored. It taste sweet, bones as hard as I remember those days, when only "orang tua aje boleh makan"
Nov 25, 2007
Asian Culinary - the future trends
The Nasi Lemak; a popular breakfast among Malaysian. The technology has assists in improving it further with "frozen; ready to eat", now just one switch button of mcrowaving, you can have it. This is available under licensing program
The future is Asia and its complicated yet harmonized cuisines. I always enjoyed cooking western, easy, fast and limited ingredients, but when it came to Malay traditional, hmm.. frankly, I never really excelled, like rendang and rendang tok, nasi briani muar or kuih bingka, bengkang and seri muka (malay traditional cakes), if asked, I would prefer to prepare varieties of cheese cake :)
Holding Principles in Life (the office politics)
Nov 24, 2007
Being Muslims..
I = Isya'
S = Subuh
L = Luhur or Zohor
A = Asar
M = Maghribs
The checklist could only be completed in one day, not able to completing will resulted in different meaning all together... in short, its a 5 times prayer a day as pre-requisite.
so, hopefully we are muslim in true practice, Amen
Between Chefs and its entitlements
It took me 4 years of study, 2 years of working experience before a 5-star hotel entitled me; Junior Pastry Chef (Penang Mutiara 1995), yet it doesnt stop me to continue improving the competencies.
In USA, chefs must undertook an exam, before he or she could use the title, I dont expect it to be controlled as in medical industry, but I dont want any abuse either. It must be controlled by a "faculty" or a chef committee.
Here another example, one of my junior lecturer took over my class, as I falling-in sick. Despite that, I do worried as my class offering striploin steak today....
FYI
Roasting Striploin steak requires some time of marination, slow fire in the oven, suggested at 150C-160C, over some period of time ( more than 45minutes), hence, slow method of cooking..... it definately cannot be thrown just like that into the oven, which will resulting "roasted wood with flavors"